Forums - Remy is NOT Guile's son Show all 39 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Fighting Game Discussion (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=8) -- Remy is NOT Guile's son (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1207) Posted by Edge-5125 on 03:13:2001 08:41 AM: If Remy was actually Guile's son what business would he be doing in France? and his name does sounds french and secondly Guile is not old enough to have a son and Guile wife name is Jane and his daughter name is Amy if it was his name wouldn't be REmy in the first place. I know he tells Alex his dad betrayed and deserted his family as his sub boss and his moves do resemble Guile Posted by OrangeCat on 03:13:2001 10:20 AM: I agree as well. The main reasons are because it seems much more like Charlie's son if anything else. Biggest piece of evidence, one handed Sonic Boom. Plus his multi hit sonic boom super. Those are moves that only Charlie has been known to do. Plus if you compare Charlie physique to Guile's, Chuck does look awfully skinny. Most of his "buff" looks like from baggy clothing. Anyways storyline wise s well. I don't think that Guile would have gone home so easily if he knew that he had an illegitimate son...or at least a one night stand where he did not know the outcome of. I mean really, Remy had like a sister as well, so that would have to mean that Guile actually started another family while he was doing whatever he was doing. Orange Cat Posted by psx2000 on 03:13:2001 10:21 AM: um in final fight 3 in the air port stage in the background u see guile waiting for a plane and it says fance in the background just thought i point that out. it could be charlies son u never know. http://www.peyros.com/tags/PSXtag.gif Posted by LOLO on 03:13:2001 12:43 PM: damn... Remy is unique... hehehe... he is skinny, non-soldier like, and he looks gay~~ hehehe... his moves are more deadly than Guile since he got more combos and stuff... and i don't think he's like Charlie either~~ Alex is like Charlie~~ but of coz Alex is always stroger~~ hehehe... KEN http://members.home.net/lolo603/BadBadtzMaru.gif -Engineering Rules- Posted by psx2000 on 03:13:2001 04:10 PM: i still say play final fight 3 and you will see the point im trying to make. http://www.peyros.com/tags/PSXtag.gif Posted by Bowling Pin on 03:13:2001 04:18 PM: Guile's not old enough to have a son?! Hell, 14 years olds are old enough to have a son! Guile already has a daughter, by the way... Posted by psx2000 on 03:13:2001 04:28 PM: and sf3 takes place in the future btw.- http://www.peyros.com/tags/PSXtag.gif Posted by SinfestBoy on 03:13:2001 05:56 PM: Sf3 has a couple characters that are old fav.s with new sprites, maby a couple moves. Posted by Pokai-Chong on 03:13:2001 07:04 PM: Lol......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol.......!!!!!!!!!!!! lol.......!!!!!!!!! that is the most funniest thing I have ever heard about SF.... very stupid but very funny!! Posted by Pokai-Chong on 03:13:2001 07:06 PM: quote: Originally posted by LOLO: damn... Remy is unique... hehehe... he is skinny, non-soldier like, and he looks gay~~ hehehe... his moves are more deadly than Guile since he got more combos and stuff... and i don't think he's like Charlie either~~ Alex is like Charlie~~ but of coz Alex is always stroger~~ hehehe... KEN <IMG SRC="http://members.home.net/lolo603/BadBadtzMaru.gif"> -Engineering Rules- Lol....!!! Guile is not gAY that is for sure!!!! He is a MAN...............not half man Posted by Hentai on 03:13:2001 10:04 PM: this is really off the wall but i always kind of thought Remy was bisons son... i mean if his dad was bison and he wanted revenge on his father, what better fighting style to learn then that of his biggest rival?... yeah i know pretty wacky heh Posted by EVIL5150 on 03:14:2001 01:52 AM: I dunno, guile used to be cool, but his fighting stance is kinda fruity. And... Guile is a big homo in CvS, he could be Remy's dad. That and both Remy and Guile have gay back-flipping flash kicks. Charlie's flash kick is a front flip. Personaly I think Remy's Gill's son because they are both so overwhelmingly lame. Posted by Evenflow80 on 03:14:2001 02:13 AM: The main reason I think that Remy is Guile's son is not because of his moves: allot of games had Guile charge-type clones. The main reason I think he's Guile's son is because of the conversation Remy has with Alex before thier fight, it goes something like this: Remy: Answer me... why do you fight?? Alex: I don't know, I started fighting long before I knew the reason why... Remy: That kind of selflishness victimizes people, and creates hatred Remy: I'll never forgive them, those that call themselves warriors, like my father, who betrayed and deserted his family!! Alex:so what? if you want sympathy, go see a shrink, but if it's pain you want, I have plenty of that to give you. The part where Remy says his father deserted him really reminded me of Guile's story in SFII. Add that to the similarities in fighting styles, and that girl that Remy's with in his ending(Amy) and the similarities are too good to simply ignore. And also, where is it stated that Remy's french? just because he fights there does'nt mean he's french. In SFIII Ken fought in Tokyo, and Sean fought in New York. Either way, Guile could have simply been on a mission in France when he concieved Remy. It's kinda like the American GI's in both World War I and II, when they went to France. Could he be Charlie's son? Sure, but the framework for a story is already there with Remy and Guile, so it would make more sense. Posted by Reaper1317 on 03:14:2001 08:40 AM: Who came up with that? It is all bullshit. Firstly Guile is Americain, so is his wife. If Remy was his son he would be Remy somthing Guile. Also Guile has never (to my knowlege) been posted or been to France. DON'T START CRAPPY RUMOURS, IF YOU DO MAKE THEM SOUND VAUGLY REAL!!!!!! " Death is the start of Life" Posted by Galactic on 03:14:2001 08:49 AM: quote: Originally posted by Edge-5125: If Remy was actually Guile's son what business would he be doing in France? and his name does sounds french and secondly Guile is not old enough to have a son and Guile wife name is Jane and his daughter name is Amy if it was his name wouldn't be REmy in the first place. I know he tells Alex his dad betrayed and deserted his family as his sub boss and his moves do resemble Guile Well there really isn't any proof that Remy is french... Well, besides the name Remy, of course, but just because he fights in France doesn't automatically make him french... And anyway, when Guile defeats Bison in SF2 he seems very reluctant to return to his family, as if he did something wrong... And in FF3, as someone mentioned, he IS standing in front of an apparently France-bound plane... Remy MAY be Guile's son, or maybe he's Charlie's son that Guile swore to take care of as his own son when Charlie got murdered by Bison/Vega... Actually, that last one is an appealing one, which would answer why Remy is so bitter... Remy thought Guile was his father, but Guile, while taking care of Remy as his own son in France in place of the dead Charlie/Nash, longed for his own family back in America and left. Thus leaving Remy behind as an embittered, angry young orphan with Charlie's skills (One handed sonic boom, multiple sonic booms in his super, his flash kick more resembles Charlie's than Guile's)... But in the end, no one is certain cept for the writers... ^_-; Posted by The Fearless Decoy on 03:14:2001 10:47 AM: I thought it was Final Fight 2 that had the France stage... with Guile in the background of a military base/hanger. I think the key to this arguement is when in time does the Final Fight series take place in comparison to the Alpha series. Is it safe to assume that SF3:TS takes place roughly 20 years after the Alpha series? Because Alpha 3 is when Guile drops whatever he was doing to go after Bison, and after the SF2 series is when he starts his real family. -The Fearless Decoy! http://ripsrus.retrogames.com/izsnes/eawj_ewjflex.gif Loyal henchman to Akuma-chan, and soon opening a freelance espionage and diversionary tactics clinic. Posted by DrunkinB on 03:14:2001 06:56 PM: Guile is in the army or something, so they went to France he had a little fling with some girl and nine months later the end result was Remy! http://www.peyros.com/tags/DrukenBtag2.gif Posted by scuddman on 03:14:2001 07:57 PM: Of course Remy is not Guile's son. He's clearly Guile's DAUGHTER. Hehe, Just Kidding. Posted by Pokai-Chong on 03:14:2001 08:53 PM: quote: Originally posted by scuddman: Of course Remy is not Guile's son. He's clearly Guile's DAUGHTER. Hehe, Just Kidding. lol!!!!!!!!!!1 lol!!!!!!!!1 lol!!!!!!!!!!1 lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by darkmanzero on 03:14:2001 09:15 PM: Heh, heh.... Do you know the truth? The truth is that at the moment, Remy has NO relation to ANYBODY. However, enough loopholes, etc have been created to allow him to be related to Guile, Charlie, even Gill as someone pointed out...Heh,heh... THEREFORE, the good guys at cap will just sit back and watch us as we make up great stories for them, then choose the one that suits them best. They did it with Akuma, didn't they? And who doesn't know that Sheng Long is nothing but a fabrication by that FAQ-ripping mag, EGM..... Feh. Posted by CWFPresidentAri on 03:14:2001 09:29 PM: The most logical explanation I heard was that this: the main reason behind all the commotion is that Remy's the only French guy in Street Fighter, right? Who else besides him is French? The only other person I believe is Sharon (from the EX games). So this means that Nash was banging Sharon, right? http://www.angelfire.com/art/avatarsandbanner/cwe.gif I take every day one beer at a time, every beer one sip at a time. Posted by darkmanzero on 03:14:2001 09:48 PM: Actually, Nash/Guile could have been Gboxing Sharon OR Blair, see, coz Blair's french too. But she's in the EX world which is a parallel world and lots of other shit... Gaddem Cap storylines are complex... Gah, well... Posted by Zero on 03:14:2001 09:50 PM: quote: Originally posted by Evenflow80: The main reason I think that Remy is Guile's son is not because of his moves: allot of games had Guile charge-type clones. The main reason I think he's Guile's son is because of the conversation Remy has with Alex before thier fight, it goes something like this: Remy: Answer me... why do you fight?? Alex: I don't know, I started fighting long before I knew the reason why... Remy: That kind of selflishness victimizes people, and creates hatred Remy: I'll never forgive them, those that call themselves warriors, like my father, who betrayed and deserted his family!! Alex:so what? if you want sympathy, go see a shrink, but if it's pain you want, I have plenty of that to give you. The part where Remy says his father deserted him really reminded me of Guile's story in SFII. Add that to the similarities in fighting styles, and that girl that Remy's with in his ending(Amy) and the similarities are too good to simply ignore. And also, where is it stated that Remy's french? just because he fights there does'nt mean he's french. In SFIII Ken fought in Tokyo, and Sean fought in New York. Either way, Guile could have simply been on a mission in France when he concieved Remy. It's kinda like the American GI's in both World War I and II, when they went to France. Could he be Charlie's son? Sure, but the framework for a story is already there with Remy and Guile, so it would make more sense. I'm quoting Evenflow because his argument is the best of the bunch. Some of you (like idiots) are assuming the Remy is French just because he fights there. (what you HAVE you fight ONLY in your home country?) I think that Remy is Guile's son. The 3s talk with Alex gives the best support of it, as stated perfectly by Evenflow. What people say is better cannon than simply where the hell they fight. None of this has been made official, but thats what I belive at the moment. And EGM is an FAQ-ripping ignorant pile of crap, as was stated. Sheng Long, what nonsence. http://silvergear.homestead.com/files/Zero_Sig1.gif The Aura Crusher http://www.geocities.com/xybaz -"It have BADNESS in it!" Posted by CWFPresidentAri on 03:14:2001 09:59 PM: You said Amy was in Remy's ending. But isn't her body laid to rest during his ending? That creates another plot hole. How does Amy die? http://www.angelfire.com/art/avatarsandbanner/cwe.gif I take every day one beer at a time, every beer one sip at a time. Posted by darkmanzero on 03:14:2001 10:10 PM: WHO SEZ that girl is Amy, EH? We don't know, see. You know what would make me laugh? Cap brings out SF4 and introduces a new character called John or something and Remy's eyes glow red when fighting him, his teeth glaring in the moon(or sun)light...and he sez "I will kill you father" like Kazuya in the worthless Tekken anime... Wait for the big boys to lay down the official verdict! If you don't want to, then write fanfiction, coz that's what all this is! Posted by SithKilla on 03:15:2001 12:47 AM: Remy is not Guiles son, Gunlock from Saturday Night Slamasters is. [This message has been edited by SithKilla (edited 03-14-2001).] Posted by EVIL5150 on 03:15:2001 01:29 AM: Remy's flash kick resembles Guile's more than Nash's because, as stated before, Guile's is a backflip and Nash's is a front flip. Beside's, I think it's far more likely that Remy is Benimaru's secret love child and he was raised by his loving adopted family of Vega (homo-claw-vega) and Rolento. Posted by OrangeCat on 03:15:2001 01:47 AM: quote: Originally posted by EVIL5150: Remy's flash kick resembles Guile's more than Nash's because, as stated before, Guile's is a backflip and Nash's is a front flip. Beside's, I think it's far more likely that Remy is Benimaru's secret love child and he was raised by his loving adopted family of Vega (homo-claw-vega) and Rolento. Ah ha, but that is a mistake. I can take into account of actual move performed, but I won't take into account the WAY it was performed. My example is once again with the sonic boom. One handed sonic boom as opposed to the two handed sonic boom. Even though it is a different way of throwing it, it also is a unique characteristic. Naturally, Remy inherited that trait from Charlie, hence if he had Guile's genes, he would need two hands to perform one. With the flash kick, it once again is a matter of characteristic over technique, although Remy does do it flipping forward, he does hawever have Charlie's foot-to-ankle encompassing energy arc. Guile's on the other hand has a whole leg energy arc. SO once again, this is a character trait of Remy, and the technique doesn't matter, if anything Guile taught Remy that technique, which is innate in him cause of Charlie. Orange Cat Posted by EVIL5150 on 03:15:2001 02:16 AM: what are you smoking? All 3 have short arcs. duh. besides, DeeJay has a onehanded sonic boom does that make him related? Posted by psx2000 on 03:15:2001 02:55 AM: hahahahah that was some funny stuff. http://www.peyros.com/tags/PSXtag.gif Posted by DaN_HiBiKi on 03:15:2001 03:00 AM: Okay Okay... I got it!! Remy's father is Gunloc!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! -------- http://www.peyros.com/tags/MGSDanTag.gif [MGS]Strider_HiBiKi Whoosh. Posted by CHAZumaru on 03:15:2001 05:03 AM: of course Remy's Guile'son Makoto is Ryu and sakura's daughter Alex is Ken's step brother and Sean was the boy adopted by the lovely couple formed by DeeJay and Dan And Twelve is the daughter in law of the sister of the cousin of the nephew of the roommate of Homer Simpson's secret twin brother: Dhalsim Posted by OrangeCat on 03:15:2001 05:29 AM: quote: Originally posted by EVIL5150: what are you smoking? All 3 have short arcs. duh. besides, DeeJay has a onehanded sonic boom does that make him related? Please be considerate. What I meant by the arcs is that Guile has an energy arc in his flash kick that is the width of his whole leg, his whole leg up to his thigh has the energy. Remy's and Charlie's on the other hand does not. They have an thin energy arc that trails only the foot and ankle area. Also don't be sarcastic. Dee Jay does not have a sonic boom since the energy does not spin around, it turns to the side and stays in it's same horizontal position, travelling across the screen. Plus that is only one move, Guile-like characters encompass the two basic moves which is sonic boom and flash kick. Also notice the face of Remy, not chiseled or hard like Guile, but more angular like Charlie's. Orange Cat Posted by Galactic on 03:15:2001 09:25 AM: quote: Originally posted by OrangeCat: quote: Originally posted by EVIL5150: Remy's flash kick resembles Guile's more than Nash's because, as stated before, Guile's is a backflip and Nash's is a front flip. Beside's, I think it's far more likely that Remy is Benimaru's secret love child and he was raised by his loving adopted family of Vega (homo-claw-vega) and Rolento. Ah ha, but that is a mistake. I can take into account of actual move performed, but I won't take into account the WAY it was performed. My example is once again with the sonic boom. One handed sonic boom as opposed to the two handed sonic boom. Even though it is a different way of throwing it, it also is a unique characteristic. Naturally, Remy inherited that trait from Charlie, hence if he had Guile's genes, he would need two hands to perform one. With the flash kick, it once again is a matter of characteristic over technique, although Remy does do it flipping forward, he does hawever have Charlie's foot-to-ankle encompassing energy arc. Guile's on the other hand has a whole leg energy arc. SO once again, this is a character trait of Remy, and the technique doesn't matter, if anything Guile taught Remy that technique, which is innate in him cause of Charlie. Orange Cat LOL! This reminds Galactic of those WWF fanatical fanboys/conspiracy theorists who sit home all day watching wrestling and whisperings stuff to each other like: "Oh my GOD! Did you see that?!? Matt Hardy did the Twist of Fate with his to his LEFT side!" "This is irrefutable PROOF that the Hardy Boyz are going to break up." C'mon, Remy doesn't even look like he's DOING a Sonic Boom... Hell, it looks like he's throwing a friggin hairpin at you! Remy's fruity as hell, so it might be... ^_-; Posted by Agent Guile on 03:15:2001 12:36 PM: The real question here is, WHAT WERE THOSE CAPCOM GUYS THINKING WHEN THEY CREATED REMY? http://www.toonapalooza.net/guilepalooza/SFA3GuileGifs/Guile_win_tagshine.gif GUILE - The only Street Fighter who was able to kick Ryu and Ken's butt and live to tell about it. (SF2V ep. 2) Posted by Agent Guile on 03:15:2001 12:38 PM: quote: Originally posted by Edge-5125: If Remy was actually Guile's son what business would he be doing in France? and his name does sounds french and secondly Guile is not old enough to have a son and Guile wife name is Jane and his daughter name is Amy if it was his name wouldn't be REmy in the first place. I know he tells Alex his dad betrayed and deserted his family as his sub boss and his moves do resemble Guile To answer your question, GUILE INDEED WENT TO FRANCE as shown in the game Final Fight 2. http://www.toonapalooza.net/guilepalooza/SFA3GuileGifs/Guile_win_tagshine.gif GUILE - The only Street Fighter who was able to kick Ryu and Ken's butt and live to tell about it. (SF2V ep. 2) Posted by Kouryuken on 03:15:2001 09:11 PM: Who says any former Street Fighter has to be Remy's father int he first place? Pfft. Capcom never gives a real story to their games, so we might as well not even try. It's like proving if Dan is really Akuma's son or not. -_-; Posted by EVIL5150 on 03:16:2001 12:56 AM: that's dumb, everyone knows Dan's father was killed by Sagat. duh. and of course the hardys are breaking up, Jeff has had a secret crush on Lita this whole time! oh yeah, Remy sucks. Posted by SHuMA-GOWRATH on 03:16:2001 04:59 AM: he is not guile's son, guile has a daughter. guile may have just impressed remy on a fight in france and remy payed him for training. http://www.crosswinds.net/~uxc/prof/wolv2.jpg All times are GMT. The time now is 10:20 PM. Show all 39 posts from this thread on one page Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.4 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000, 2001.